[Users] How do i enable top-posting in response emails?

[Ralf Hutter]

Hello everybody,
i've looked around a lot, but nowhere can i find the possibility to
have the cursor positioned above the answered text, when responding to
an email, instead of below.
Imposssible?
Ralf

[Paul]

On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 19:58:23 +0200

Post by Ralf Hutter
i've looked around a lot, but nowhere can i find the possibility to
have the cursor positioned above the answered text, when responding
to an email, instead of below.
Imposssible?

Possible! You need to use %X (or the equivalent %cursor) in your
templates. This controls the initial placement of the cursor.

with regards

Paul

[Ralf Mardorf]

Post by Ralf Hutter
i've looked around a lot, but nowhere can i find the possibility to
have the cursor positioned above the answered text, when responding to
an email, instead of below.
Imposssible?

The first hit by a Startpage and by a Google search answers your
question:

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=claws+mail+cursor+above+quotes -->
http://claws-mail.org/pipermail/users/2011-December/000623.html

Hth,
Ralf

[Paul]

On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 20:15:54 +0200

Post by Ralf Mardorf
The first hit by a Startpage and by a Google search answers your

And also the Information window in Claws, listing the available
symbols does.

with regards

Paul

[Daniel Hrbáč]

Dne Mon, 12 Oct 2015 19:58:23 +0200 Ralf Hutter ***@posteo.de
napsal(a) zprávu: [Users] How do i enable top-posting in response
emails?

Post by Ralf Hutter
Hello everybody,
i've looked around a lot, but nowhere can i find the possibility to
have the cursor positioned above the answered text, when responding to
an email, instead of below.
Imposssible?
Ralf

Create template in account folder properties. For one account I use:

%X
%as
Dne %d %N %A napsal(a) zprávu %s:
%q



Daniel

[moxalt]

Post by Ralf Hutter
Hello everybody,
i've looked around a lot, but nowhere can i find the possibility to
have the cursor positioned above the answered text, when responding to
an email, instead of below.
Imposssible?
Ralf

Please, please, please, please don't top-post. Please.

A: This.
Q: What is top-posting?
A: Because it messes up the flow.
Q: Why should one not top-post?

[Ralf Mardorf]

Post by moxalt

Post by Ralf Hutter
i've looked around a lot, but nowhere can i find the possibility to
have the cursor positioned above the answered text, when responding
to an email, instead of below.

Please, please, please, please don't top-post. Please.

The OP seems to be from Germany, so assumed he needs Claws for office
work, he might not have a choice.

Sometimes business people ask to quote the complete correspondence. If
you would bottom post, they won't read the mail, because they think you
didn't answer. It's expected that replies are on top, followed by tons
of older messages, including all that grotesque signatures that are
three times as long as the message bodies are.

Regards,
Another Ralf

[Patrick Boettcher]

On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 16:33:16 +0200 Ralf Mardorf

Post by Ralf Mardorf

Post by moxalt

Post by Ralf Hutter
i've looked around a lot, but nowhere can i find the possibility to
have the cursor positioned above the answered text, when responding
to an email, instead of below.

Please, please, please, please don't top-post. Please.

The OP seems to be from Germany, so assumed he needs Claws for office
work, he might not have a choice.

Even more off-topic than moxalt's answer in regards to this thread:

I would not assume that someone using a .de-address as sender is from
Germany (especially when it's posteo.de).

Post by Ralf Mardorf
Sometimes business people ask to quote the complete correspondence. If
you would bottom post, they won't read the mail, because they think you
didn't answer. It's expected that replies are on top, followed by tons
of older messages, including all that grotesque signatures that are
three times as long as the message bodies are.

I can confirm this reasoning. In addition this flow makes threading
quite unuseful - sometimes.

regards,
--
Patrick.

[Ralf Mardorf]

Post by Patrick Boettcher
I would not assume that someone using a .de-address as sender is from
Germany (especially when it's posteo.de)

The OP's name spelling is the same spelling as my name's spelling.

Ralf

I suspect that in most other countries the spelling more often is

Ralph

That's the reason that I wrote that the "OP seems to be from Germany".
^^^^^

[H.Merijn Brand]

On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 16:50:44 +0200, Patrick Boettcher

Post by Patrick Boettcher

Post by Ralf Mardorf
Sometimes business people ask to quote the complete correspondence. If
you would bottom post, they won't read the mail, because they think you
didn't answer. It's expected that replies are on top, followed by tons
of older messages, including all that grotesque signatures that are
three times as long as the message bodies are.

and what about the complete stack of company logo's (multi-fold, as all
replyers add their own set), smiley gifs, jpegs for twitter, facebook
and other shit and worse, advertisements!

Post by Patrick Boettcher
I can confirm this reasoning. In addition this flow makes threading
quite unuseful - sometimes.

Even when people expect me to do top-posting, I do so with just a
single line as top-post:

"I have answers to all your questions. Read them below the questions you
asked in your ridiculously long mail (from which I stripped all useless
company logo's and signatures)"

Then I reply as usual. If they still don't get it, its their fault, not
mine.

[Ralf Mardorf]

Post by H.Merijn Brand
On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 16:50:44 +0200, Patrick Boettcher

Post by Patrick Boettcher

Post by Ralf Mardorf
Sometimes business people ask to quote the complete
correspondence. If you would bottom post, they won't read the
mail, because they think you didn't answer. It's expected that
replies are on top, followed by tons of older messages, including
all that grotesque signatures that are three times as long as the
message bodies are.

and what about the complete stack of company logo's (multi-fold, as all
replyers add their own set), smiley gifs, jpegs for twitter, facebook
and other shit and worse, advertisements!

and http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/stupid-disclaimers/

That's why I used the word "grotesque". This are the signatures I'm
talking about. I usually cut it and I bet nobody notices, since nobody
will read the quoted mails.

Post by H.Merijn Brand

Post by Patrick Boettcher
I can confirm this reasoning. In addition this flow makes threading
quite unuseful - sometimes.

Even when people expect me to do top-posting, I do so with just a
"I have answers to all your questions. Read them below the questions
you asked in your ridiculously long mail (from which I stripped all
useless company logo's and signatures)"
Then I reply as usual. If they still don't get it, its their fault, not
mine.

This is what I often do too, but if I want my money back, a good job or
something similar, I prefer that they get it ;).

[Liz]

On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 17:22:37 +0200

Post by H.Merijn Brand
Even when people expect me to do top-posting, I do so with just a
"I have answers to all your questions. Read them below the questions
you asked in your ridiculously long mail (from which I stripped all
useless company logo's and signatures)"
Then I reply as usual. If they still don't get it, its their fault,
not mine.

thanks Merijn
I like that idea.

Liz

[Steve Litt]

On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 16:33:16 +0200

Post by Ralf Mardorf

Post by moxalt

Post by Ralf Hutter
i've looked around a lot, but nowhere can i find the possibility to
have the cursor positioned above the answered text, when responding
to an email, instead of below.

Please, please, please, please don't top-post. Please.

The OP seems to be from Germany, so assumed he needs Claws for office
work, he might not have a choice.
Sometimes business people ask to quote the complete correspondence. If
you would bottom post, they won't read the mail, because they think
you didn't answer. It's expected that replies are on top, followed by
tons of older messages, including all that grotesque signatures that
are three times as long as the message bodies are.

True, but there's a special place in hell for people who top post in
mailing lists discussions.

SteveT

[Brian Morrison]

On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 17:18:53 +0300

Post by moxalt
Please, please, please, please don't top-post. Please.

In some places it is the expected, and often required, behaviour.

It's configurable on a per-folder basis to allow it to be used in some
cases and not in others.